Wednesday, December 13, 2017

How to maximise your fishing package at Gills Fishing Pond?

Come at the right time, at the right price!
The best package to take based on their current promotion is definitely the 9pm to 6am (next day) promotion at $60. This is 9 hours at $60 which amounts to $6.70 hourly (cheaper than prawning!). Gills allows you to "keep the hours" and requires that you top up a minimum of 1 hour ($30) when you want to redeem your remaining hours.

The best time to fish would of course be the timings where they release fish. It's a pretty small, contained pond so not much retained fish from previous releases will linger for long. Here's a quick guide on how to utilise* the hours for the 9pm to 6am promotion.

Total hours: 11, Total spend: $120 (additional 2 hours x $30)
1st trip: 9pm to 1am (total 4 hours utilised); 10pm and 12am fish release
2nd trip: 9pm to 1am (total 3 hours utilise + 1 hour top up); 10pm and 12am fish release
3rd trip: 10pm to 1am (total 2 hours utilise + 1 hour top up); 10pm and 12am fish release

Of course, you can spend 9 hours at the pond straight but if not, one has to buy a minimum of 1 additional hour at $30 to utilise the remaining hours. If you break up your hours like the above example, that will mean you spend $120 in total and secure 6 net release opportunities.

This means that to break even, you will need to land a total of 8 fishes for all 3 sessions (About 2 fish per session which isn't difficult since each session has 2 net releases). Factor in that each piece is probably 1kg and each live fish cost price is at $15/kg estimated (this is the usual snapper, barramundi etc.) Gaos are are worth more and a live hybrid probably weighs in at $20-$30/kg estimated from the farm.
  • 8 fishes x $15 = $120 (you have broke even)
  • 10 fishes x $15 = $150 (you're definitely getting your money back) 
*Utilise within 2 weeks. Multiple visits are ok.

This post is created with information referenced from as of 12 Dec 2017. Gills Fishing terms and conditions might have changed at the time that you are reading this so do head on to their page to get the most updated rates.

Past CR at Gills Fishing 

Thursday, December 7, 2017

Bring Kids Fishing!

Hi all my beloved readers,

Thank you very much for you past and present support in following my social media and blog posts. It has been more than 10 years since my first blog post and the way that people share fishing stories has changed drastically. The community has seen fishing forum adoption, Facebook pages and closed groups.

After a long thought, I've decided to also evolve the way I engage with you guys. I mean, all you need to do now is to Google and you can get all the answers you need about fishing (except secret fishing spots in Singapore of course!). I'm currently still selling madais, tenyas and metal jigs in my little online shop but what's going to be changing is that I'm going firmly into a cause that I strongly believe in - to bring kids fishing. This is something that I feel is lacking in the world we live in these days where parents do not teach their kids healthy activities. Instead, kids are always glued to their computer screens. This is a pity as fishing is a tradition that has been a way of life for our forefathers and is a healthy hobby that can bring the family together.

At Bring Kids Fishing, I hope to equip parents with basic fishing knowledge (so that they can bring their kids fishing!) or if parents have no time, we'll teach the kids and they can bring their parents fishing!

Currently, I attend to parents on a case to case basis on their fishing related needs. If required, I can conduct fishing lessons, fishing tackle lessons and bring you fishing. The services I provide are meant to be affordable and it makes me happy if customers don't come back to me after a few trips. This means they have graduated!

At the moment, I'm running interest checks for a pilot run of 'Bringing your kid for swa jiam fishing'. If you're interested in this pilot run, kindly contact me using the form found here or you can send me an email at

Let's go fishing!

Monday, December 4, 2017

Fishing with the Prince of Peace (Jeff Tsen), Sembawang SAF Yacht Club, Singapore

Do you like catching small reef fish like arumugam, john's snapper, leatherjackets, hang zi hee, leng chiam and so on? Well, then you better head on to the Prince of Peace (POP) fishing charter boat in Singapore. Berthed at the Sembawang SAF Yacht Club, the POP is helmed by veteran skipper Jeff Tsen (Dr. Rod). Jeff has been around for years and is also the skipper for the infamous sampan fishing charters. He's a fan of catching small fish which is a welcome sight because small fishes can be really tasty and good fun!

Because of some last minute weather, we cancelled our sampan trip and went onboard POP to do some changi/ubin fishing at last minute notice. Jeff was a no nonsense skipper and we were tasked to meet at the pier at 6am in order to meet the tide. We would first head to Changi to buy our prawns and ice from the kelongs and then head to the hybrid spots to nab some groupers. After that was reef fishing time for the rest of the day. How did the day go?

Busted off at 'GPS147' grouper spot

On red rubber shad! Yeah!
I have to admit I was shocked when the 2nd and 3rd groupers bust me off in under 5 seconds at one of Jeff's grouper spots. Totally no chance given. I usually am the one bullying fishes but the opposite happened this time. I got complacent after landing the first fish on rubber - a beautiful malabar which took the rubber on the drop. The next two fishes took the rubber shad too and just took off even though I put my hand on the spool. The angle of the line wasn't the best though and I was cut off after a few seconds. Imagine size 10 leaders being cut off like candy floss! These bust lines would be in my memory for quite some time!
Ubin good sized Kim by Biao
Gelama jackpot
Hanzi hee
Good total catch

Tandah time!

Reef fishing time
If you are familiar with Ah Bee at Punggol, then you will know that reef fishing is loads of fun especially if you use small hooks and cut baits! We fished up much tandas, tee boons, mugams and han zi hees at Jeff's spots. This really brought back childhood memories where we cannot afford live prawns and had to use handline.

We had great fun for the whole day and the total catch picture didn't even include the 5 good sized fishes that we couldn't bring back. POP was rather spacious and probably would fit 7 anglers comfortably. The live bait well was one of the best that I have come across and Jeff's knowledge of the fishing spots was seamless. Jeff's winning trait was that he knew which tide to visit which spots at - if the tide wasn't right for certain spots, then forget it, don't waste time. This was important to me as you don't end up just fishing blindly.

We even posted for one!
Priced at $550 (with 2kg prawns and ice at max 7 pax), POP was surely one of the most value for money charters that we came across. Highly recommended you try Jeff's services ;)

To book POP, go to or call 97428579 Jeff Tsen.

Southern Island Bottom and Pelagic Fishing in Singapore with Sam Law

This is just a short blog post that that those of you who want to go to Singapore southern island fishing or Tuas fishing can take note of this fishing charter captain Sam. Sam is capable of bringing you to the most scariest bottom fishing spots where monsters live in.

See this?

But on the other hand, he is also capable of bringing you for the pelagics on the light jig or aji. See this. Got tengerri some more!  

And most of the time, he doesn't leave us disappointed!

Here's the last two trips of 2017 round-up of our (and kakis) trips with Sam yielded good, quality fishes with quantity as well. Got picture got talk!


Give him a call at 91270087 to book his boat now. Don't say we bo jio. Note that he is chinese and malay speaking.

Trolling and luring in Singapore with Fishing Captain Jimmy Lim from Marina Country Club

Beautiful Hybrid on trolling lure!
Trolling for fish is something we seldom do in Singapore because of the water visibility here. The fish to water ratio is also pretty bad and this means trolling is probably not the most effective method. This was all until I met Jimmy Lim - the charter captain from Punggol who would do trolling even in Changi and Pulau Ubin areas!

As this was a largely trolling trip, we trolled some breakers off punggol and changi and were rewarded by some decent sized gaos. It was quite a productive time as we landed a few pieces in a short span of time. Not bad at all. The lure that scored the gaos was the Reef Runner 700 series Rip Stick. One of my favourite all time trolling lures.

Of course, being the flamboyant beef lovers that we were, we couldn't resist bringing the lotus grill on-board the boat and having a good meal of steak, sausages and whipped potato. And yeah, while we cooked the steak, some groupers and barramundis decided to visit. We chided Jimmy for not telling us earlier that this was possible.

To book Jimmy, you can visit his page at and drop him an enquiry. He operates from Marina Country Club and fishes the Punggol, Pulau Ubin, Seletar, Yishun, Changi, Tekong areas. Micro jigging, jigging, luring, trolling, baiting all possible from his boat.

Catch Report Pictures:

Gills Fishing Pond (Singapore) at Punggol Marina Country Club

Gills fishing pond also known as defunct swimming pool pond
I seldom visit fishing payponds in Singapore. The fishes are smelly, the rates are expensive and very often, it is crowded. Fishing can get really predictable too which really kills the joy of getting a surprise catch. So, be very surprised that I am blogging about a fairly new fishing pond - Gill's fishing pond. The pond is located inside Punggol Marina (Marina Country Club) and is built on swimming pool foundation!

I always scoffed at the pond as I came back from fishing with Jimmy. How could someone enjoy fishing here - the pond was shallow and the high up build meant that the pond level was at about your waist level. This makes fishing rather awkward. I scoffed and scoffed until one fine day, our bunch of kakis had not much choice but to go there for a gathering and do some fishing.

Then, I realised that Gills fishing did some things differently - they would release threadfin salmons (ngor soon), coral trouts (ang gao), stingrays, sharks, GTs, baby boon nang and all sorts of things from the sea that their supplier would find. This made fishing less predictable and exciting I suppose so it made me fairly excited.

Three other things surprised me during my time fishing there.

1. The pond is a regular size and the pumps are positioned with care. This meant excellent distribution and current flow. When fishes are released, the fishes would spread around the pond evenly. Yes, in other words, you don't need to crowd around the net release area to get a fish. You can just cast about anywhere!

2. The fishes that we got and cooked were very tasty and had no fishy smell! Our group of kakis steamed the mangrove jack, ang chor and ngor soon. All were excellent eating and didn't have the "pond smell. Meat texture was also firm and excellent.

3. These people understood fishing. When you buy hours, there is an option of extending or retaining your hours. They also have a promise of the angler being able to get a minimum of one fish. If you don't you are free to fish until you get one. This is very important for newbies because newbies can really zero out sometimes! Good thinking Gills.

Anyway, this was my one and only catch there...
I even bled my own fish in my own icebox!
Two rods. 9pm to 5am.
Keen to try Gills? Head down to Gills at the below address:

11 Northshore Drive Singapore 828670, Marina Country Club.
Contact number: 9121 7577
24 hours operation

4hrs - S$60/-
6hrs - S$80/-
6am to 12nn (6hrs) - S$60/- (Promo)
6pm to 12mn (6hrs) - S$60/-
9pm to 6am (9hrs) - S$60/-
9pm to 12nn (15hrs) - S$100/- (Promo)

Friday, November 3, 2017

10 tested and proven food items to go with your Lotus Grill!

Well firstly, I have to make some declarations. This entry is neither a fishing post nor it is a sponsored post (but Lotus Grill, if you’re reading this, I really wouldn’t mind free charcoal). What I have written is really just an honest tip on having a simple indoor smokeless barbeque (BBQ) in your HDB flat in Singapore. And yes, it really is smokeless and it's not a gimmick to get you to buy. There is some complicated science theory on why it is smokeless but I simply attribute it to the type of charcoal and the way the grill is designed (oil/food doesn't drip onto the charcoal).

I am talking about the Lotus Grill and if you are thinking to get it, I’d always suggest getting only the original product - You can get it at Tangs or Robisons. Why? I know there are lots of made in China imitations but why would you want to take a risk with something that could potentially burn down your house or your branded bags?

Ok so once you buy the grill and read all the instructions, you're really set to BBQ. It really is quite idiot proof but just in case you want more tips, I've prepared three quick tips that newbies won't know at the onset. 

  1. Buy your Lotus Grill charcoal from online sources like Rakuten, Lazada and Carousell. It’s usually much cheaper than buying from the departmental stores. 
  2. Buy organic coconut charcoal from NTUC or Cold Storage. Some branches do sell it. It’s also proven by me to be cheaper, lasts longer and is less smoky. 
  3. You don’t need to use the grill gates that come with the set. You can use disposable wire mesh but note that if oil or fat drips into the charcoal area, then you’re going to have some smoke. I suggest to only use personal wire mesh if you’re cooking food with high water content like fish or squid. If you’re cooking chicken wings or steak, best to use the stock grill.
 Now the tested and proven food!

1. Sirloin/Rump/Ribeye steak

Rump Steak
Cut up
The cut of steak that you choose really depends on your preference. I usually like a medium rare sirloin with charred blubber exterior. The key thing though is that with the Lotus Grill, you can get really uniform and constant heat to cook your steak. Once you get that sear going, you know you’re set for a good piece of well-charred steak but yet it is still juicy on the inside. Trust me. You’ll spend more time and care when you’re cooking steak indoors than you are outside…

2. Marinated Chicken Midwings/Midjoint

Midwings or Midjoints are more expensive than normal chicken wings but it really makes sense here because the heat is uniform. You can still go with the usual wings but I reckon it’d take longer to cook. Same with the beef – the heat really helps in cooking your meat uniformly. And you’ll definitely have less burnt wings (vs having an outdoor BBQ).

3. Chicken, pork or beef bulgogi

The middle part of the grill (covered) is quite a mystery sometimes. Its main usage is to make sure nothing drips into the charcoal but you can use it cook food. I find that using it to cook bulgogi is not bad idea because the bulgogi stays on the grill (since it's covered). Remember to oil the middle grill well though as it can burn up quite easily.

4. Sausages


I always believe in getting good sausages for your grill and here’s no exception. You can spread them out along the grill so you can maximize space.

5. Large scallops (shell on)

This is something that works brilliantly for the Lotus Grill (or just about any other outdoor BBQ). Since it is an indoor BBQ, you’ll have some space for the scallops when you’re digging into your other food (which just finished cooking). I usually grill my steak first and let the scallops simmer while I eat my steak.

6. Mussels

Garlic and pepper!

Mussels are a really cheap buy at any supermarket – buy them fresh or get the frozen NZ ones. You’ll be surprised at how cheap it is. I usually like to douse them in boiling water, open them up and place them shell side down (with cheese or garlic). The dousing removes fishy smell and dirt but at the same time still keeps them juicy.

7. Salmon, Halibut, Cod or any fish that is relatively flat

Flaky goodness!
This is something that usually isn’t done well at your usual outdoor BBQ simply because everyone is rushing to cook their own food. The good news is that you can now put your prized fish onto a fish grill and have it grilled to perfection. Salmon works too if you can’t find Halibut or Cod.

The recipe is simple – just get sea salt, black pepper, aromatics (lemon, dill, lemon balm etc. is fine) and garlic if desired. Start grilling skin side down. 

8. Grilled Teriyaki Squid!

This is something we recently came up with. All you need to do is buy Kikkoman Teriyaki sauce and season the squid with it. You can baste it as it cooks for a stronger flavour. Don’t cook it too long else it will dry up – don’t be caught up with why Japanese restaurant squids look more charred. They have flame torches for that!

9. BBQ Stingray
BBQ Stingray in a foil is a major no no for me. If you do that, you aren’t BBQ-ing at all because that’s more like steaming right? So go buy some cuts of Stingray – season with salt and pepper and slap it on the grill. The charcoal will help to remove any fish smell and you can put down your favourite sambal after it’s cooked. Enjoy crispy, seared Stingray.

10. LIVE prawns

Sorry prawns
Yes! Finally...
I’m not sure what restaurant ad I saw but one ad mentioned that catching your own live seafood and BBQ-ing them was a thing. Now, you can BBQ live prawns anytime and that’s what we did after we caught some prawns during a recent prawning session. Hmmm, where are those live crabs…

For instructions on how to use the Lotus Grill, you can refer to this video for easy instructions.

Wednesday, November 1, 2017

3 Quick thoughts on the Social Credit Rating System (from Singapore)

I thought that it was rather bold of China to launch a Social Credit System to rate its citizens. The idea, although a simple one does contain many cans of worms but yet I tend to be an optimist so I was rather thrilled at the applications.

The article mentions that the system will affect people in these ways:
  1. Slower internet speeds
  2. Restricted access to restaurants, nightclubs or golf courses
  3. Removal of the right to travel freely abroad
  4. Low scores can influence rental and loan applications, employment opportunities especially in the civil service, journalism and legal fields.
  5. Restrictions to enrolling themselves or children in high-paying private schools
This list is most likely not exhaustive. China's people have already proven itself competent when it comes to creativity and problem solving (enter WeChat, Alibaba and so on) so I'm pretty sure they will have more applications up their sleeves.

I mean, just look at the list of five things up there and tell me you don't sense any useful applications?
With all optimism, here are three of my thoughts:

The unruly Chinese tourists can be kept in rein

Here is something that I can probably relate to in my work or travels. I'm not putting all Chinese citizens in the same bucket since I firmly believe every country has its bad eggs. I've had rude students (from China) who insisted they were part of a conference and wanted free food and I've also had incidents of rude/unethical tourists when I travelled to the Maldives for a short holiday. How did I know? Well, they caught seafood off a marine sanctuary and cooked them in their rooms. Upon being found out, they argued and insisted they were in the right. Well, I mean, Culture aside, they knew it was illegal to poach but went ahead anyway.

If you can determine that someone has a bad reputation on social media (swears often, has bad reviews, friends block him) and bar him from travelling, would that result in less "bad eggs" going overseas to tarnish the reputation of their country? Would we see more desirable tourists originating from a country?

Every country has bad eggs and if you can use the power of digital to evaluate them, then imagine the possibilities. China has a billion or so people anyway so scaling is beneficial. In fact, in February 2017, China's Supreme People's Court announced that 6.15 million of its citizens had been banned from taking flights over the past four years for social misdeeds.

And yea, we're already doing this in some small ways in Singapore! I am evaluating drivers based on their star rankings and if their rankings are low...

Say Yay to no more fake news?

Without a doubt, fake news has been the talk of the year and I think there's potential for the system to work here. The article already mentions limiting employment in journalism, legal and government if you have a bad rating. That's a really cool method to sift out people. It probably works in the same way as how we tend to curate our social media newsfeeds over time (I unfollow or block non-credible sources all the time). If people already tend to spread fake news on their social media and are identified by bad ratings, then yes, please don't work for the government, legal or the newspapers.

Come to think of it, we're already really doing it in a micro way: Employers looking at your social media feed before they employ you; citizens scrutinising a minister's social media page.

Of course, whether this can really work depends on the fake news and audience receiving it. Some people simply spread fake news unknowingly so that's an education problem. My mum sends me fake news all the time but she thinks it's very real...

Owe money and don't get a loan

The most practical application ever and I left the simplest to the last. You can buy things with your social media accounts in China and this means that if you're a bad paymaster, everyone will know. If people post an O$P$ post on your account, everyone is going to know. And if you have no money or credibility, no loan for you. Simple.

Again, come to think of it, we're already doing it in a micro way. The loan sharks have done it for ages by sticking pigs heads (and then your neighbours stop loaning you money or you restrict your own travelling because you're afraid to go out). Credit companies have been assigning credit scores for ages.

Okay, that's all for my thoughts and I know there are lots of question marks about social credit rating too. Here's some of them and I won't go into detail because like I said, I'm an optimist ;)

Big question marks:

Will the system cause inequality? 

Yes probably. There are some folks that do think of it as being a modern Indian caste system and there are similarities. I'm pretty sure my grandfather is not on social media and if that means he gets a ranking of zero, then it's not fair. Social media is also a benefit that is enabled by having an internet connection so folks that can't afford to have internet will lose out completely.

Personality differences on social media vs real life

I'm probably an occasional lion when it comes to voicing opinions on social media but I prefer to let the fluffy clouds go by peacefully in real life.

The system might only work for extreme ends
  1. Rude person doesn't pay loans and blah bla blah. Restrict them! Good Job!
  2. Normal person on social media: Likes some posts a day. Mildly active on social media. Gets "normal" benefits.
  3. Person active on social media: Likes 100 posts every day, is friendly and social. Makes friends with everyone. Get all the benefits?
Basically, we can really identify if someone is really bad or really good but many question marks for those in the middle. Also, ethical questions are called into play here. What really is good and what really is bad? Are civil offences considered bad? Does divorcing your partner make you bad? Does getting into a civil lawsuit make you a bad person?

Flip it the other way round. Does saying Happy Birthday to everyone on Facebook make you a good, friendly person?


Nigel works at the Lee Kuan Yew School of Public Policy and the go-to person for the School when it comes to Social Media. Whether you are a student, alumni or just curious, he invites you to connect with him on Twitter and LinkedIn. Nigel does recreational fishing and diving in his somewhat little spare time.

Wednesday, September 27, 2017

Sampan fishing trips with Jeff Tsen in Sembawang, Singapore (2017 update)

"Huh, you mean on sampan fishing trips, we can spin live prawns like how we do in fishing pay ponds in Singapore?"

That was the pivotal question that we asked ourselves before we went to board the sampan. I've went for sampan fishing with Jeff before and it was quite a good experience in urban Singapore (where every sort of lobang and fishing spot is now fenced up...). The instructions were simple: Light rod 5ft, size 1000 sized reel. Leader line of 30lbs, hooks size 1/0. No need for split shots.

One might expect pay pond sized fishes when looking at the tackle requirement but no… after a few trips, we had a few decent sized fish. We met with the wild magnificent mangrove jack (ang ka tia), wild barramundis, wild groupers, some tarpon and even herring.

What are some tips if you are going sampan fishing with Jeff?

The one tip that I know will work is hard work. Some nights, the fishes are just elusive and don’t want to move their mouth. You have to keep searching, keep knocking on their homes. Don’t give up! The more rocks you snag, the more chances you have in “the zone”.

Bonus tip? Don’t rush into the hook up and fight. Big fish may take very slowly at night and a small nibble doesn’t always mean a small one at the other end. As the tackle used is very light, we want a secure hook up so we can tire the fish out. Get a firm hook set, play the fish right (listen to the captain) and keep the rod down when the fish dives under the boat.

That’s really all you need to know…

Here’s a few catches over a trip or two…

 Looking forward to the next one!  

* Note that some of the smaller groupers were released…

Tuesday, May 30, 2017

Baktao fish ball making project: 5 kinds of fish and their characteristics [Failed Attempt]

I have always been very curious about making fish balls. Being a fan of handmade fish balls, I often wondered what it was like to make your fish balls from scratch. As I googled different fish ball making recipes, it seemed that making fish balls weren't that complicated. It was just a little flour, salt and water. I was wrong. I thought that I was easy but the fish balls failed miserably, and they didn't turn out like they were supposed to.

In hindsight, I was probably a little too ambitious. I had freshly caught ebek (diamond trevally), grouper, kaci (sweet lips), barracuda, eng ko (parrot fish) set aside for this project and by the end of the day, I was exhausted with too much meat to work with. The fish balls weren't springy enough due to not enough slamming as I underestimated the manual labour needed. It would certainly help if you had a food mixer or a horde of workers to help you throw the fish balls against the chopping boards!

Still, not all was in vain, and although the end products were failures, I managed to ascertain the different texture and taste of the fishes that I used. I hope that this will be useful information for you.

Preparing the different fish meat took so much time!
Not worth it if you use small fishes!
You should end up with a gooey mixture after a bit of slamming
What failed fish balls look like. The balls were too mincy and not QQ enough due to not enough slamming. Also, probably too much flour.

 Tips for fish ball making (I realised this after I failed)

  1. Have a food mixer or an army of fish ball makers. Don't underestimate the effort to make a few fish balls!
  2. If possible, bleed the fish during your fishing trip to keep the fish meat white and clean. Blood or dark coloured meat can stain the rest of the fish ball and make them look "dark".
  3. If you're using smaller fish, do have many of them to scrape the meat out and make a decent feed of fish balls.

Types of fish and characteristics

The large ebek yielded so much meat!
1) Ebek The texture was a little too mincy, and although there is much meat to be used for fish balls, the texture was too coarse. There was a slight fishy taste, but you can't tell if don't focus on it. It took much effort to get the protein in the fish meat to get "sticky". Colour was a good white colour. Might be better to use ebek for otah rather than fish balls.

Notice that Barracuda meat is slightly darker?
2) Barracuda. These were surprisingly very bouncy, and the meat was not too bad. It got "sticky" rather easily too. The meat was surprisingly not fishy at all. The only problems using barracuda was that the colour of the fish balls was a little dark and the fish didn't have much meat to scrape in the first place!

White and sweet smelling flesh!
3) Eng Ko (Parrot fish). Eng Ko is your rich man's fish ball. I've already heard from Merchong King Chong that these fish make wonderful fish ball, but nothing prepared me for this! I screwed up the bouncy texture of the fish balls, but parrot fish balls were still very sweet and had a good texture. You can smell the meat's sweetness as you make the fish balls and the best thing was that the fish ball colour was a good pearl white. Definitely a good idea to make fish balls if you get sick of eating it the usual way.

Very normal flesh
4) Kaci. These were nothing special regarding flavour. I rank it under the Barracuda. The fish balls itself were kind of duh - nothing to talk about and pretty plain. No fishy smell, no sweetness. Kind of tasteless. Can skip if you are thinking of doing it.

Better off for steamed fish!
5) Grouper. Grouper fish balls were not bad. You could taste the sweetness of the fish but there is also this "grouper" smell to the fish balls that was weird. Also, you have to choose really big groupers if you want more meat. Using grouper (which is considered a premium fish) didn't really add or take away anything so I would suggest you keep it for steaming instead.

Better off for BBQ

6) Rainbow Runner. I don't really remember anything special about this as I was already too tired.

I've decided not to share the recipe here as I couldn't master it. You can google for some recipes. There are quite a lot of resources.

This is not the end of my fish ball project for sure but I'll be back with a food mixer! Got any recipes to recommend or want to teach me? You can always contact me at this page.

Some of the failed fish balls and how I kept them

Gave up after the fourth fish
Ebek balls tasted like meat balls really
These were the best!